[There is a moment where Ren's features soften. It's brief, fleeting, with his features looking wounded—because he isn't him. He isn't nearly as powerful as Darth Vader. Though Vader had been held back by sentiment, he had proved to be stronger for years upon years. Even when Palpatine challenged his role as his apprentice, Vader still rose above that and proved that he deserved that place in the Empire.

Unlike Vader, Ren doesn't know that he would ever accomplish the same thing. He defeated that sentiment, cutting down his father. And he had naively believed that that moment would lead to some new strength within him, some new ruthlessness that he had never tapped into before.

But it unleashed something else: emotions, love, compassion. Things he meant to cut away. Things he's trying to cut away even now.

But that expression, that wounded look, is brief, and it looks misplaced on his scarred face. He replaces it with something unreadable, but that's him schooling his face that way. It's obviously meant to hide something else, and anyone good at reading people would be able to see that he isn't very good at passing between emotional states casually. That's because he's always emotional, always out of control, always dealing with that.]

Symbols carry a lot of power. If someone on the dark side represents that power and succeeds, it would guarantee the return of a power as great as the Empire had been. [There's a pause.]

But there is a legacy, too. One that only I can carry. That others have failed to carry. They wouldn't chance ruining his legacy. [Vader's.] But he was a Skywalker. One of the very first, and as far as I'm concerned, the last. [His uncle didn't deserve to have the power of the Force, too caught up in idealism and a need to bring back the Jedi order without acknowledging that true balance could only be achieved through callousness and ruthlessness.

(Or so Ren believes. It's an idea that doesn't carry all the weight that he'd like it to carry.)]